6 de fevereiro de 2018

Notes on “Circular arguments and category errors in the rejection of voluntary intimate relationships between adults and children.”

Filed under: Passatempos, Saúde e bem-estar — Tags:, , — Yure @ 15:46

“Circular arguments and category errors in the rejection of voluntary intimate  relationships between adults and children” was written by T. Rivas. Below are some paraphrased (not quoted) thoughts found in that text. They not necessarely reflect my own opinion on a given subject.

  1. Sexual abuse does exist.
  2. But the existence of abuse isn’t a proof in favor of the inexistence of non-abusive relationships.
  3. Saying that the existence of child sexual abuse invalidates the existence of positive relationships between adults and minors is like saying that the existence of rape invalidates the existence of positive relationships between men and women.
  4. Many people realize that such line of thought is invalid if you kindly explain them it’s implications.
  5. The author’s goal is to call attention to some logical problems that are harming a honest debate about relationships between adults and minors.
  6. An argument against those relationships is that “no minor is capable of any kind of love other than the love they feel for their parents”.
  7. Meaning that any friendship or romance between an adult and a minor is always built on the adult’s interest, never on the minor’s interest.
  8. But that argument is easily dismissed by our own memories, as many of us, as children, had friendly or amorous feelings towards adults as persons, rather than adults as authorities.
  9. Some minors, even as children, do have erotic feelings towards adults and they are not as rare as people often think.
  10. Those feelings are different from those we expect to have in a parent/child relationship.
  11. That means that a minor is capable of other kinds of love.
  12. Denying the existence of child sexuality is unrealistic.
  13. While some deny the existence of child sexuality, others admit it’s existence as a problem to be solved.
  14. Some sustain that a minor who loves an adult doesn’t “really” love them (implying that the minor is either confused or lying).
  15. If that kind of relationship is wrong, then the adult is supposed to decline advances done by minors.
  16. But why is it wrong?
  17. If we say that a voluntary relationship isn’t “truly” voluntary, we are implying that voluntary relationships do not exist.
  18. That allows the argument to be taken for obvious, not needing proof.
  19. But what makes one say that it’s not “truly” voluntary?
  20. Is it because we don’t want it to be?
  21. It’s like saying “just because” when asked “why are they never voluntary?”.
  22. A lot of those relationships have no sex whatsoever anyway.
  23. Most of the good relationships don’t have sex as goal anyway.
  24. Kids fantasize.
  25. Repressing child sexuality does lead to sexual frustration.
  26. Children do fall in love with each other.
  27. Breaking a moral code doesn’t imply psychological harm.
  28. No moral code is self-evident, so much that Christians often disagree in moral matters, despite their morals being supposedly absolute.
  29. It should be immoral if it’s harmful, but it’s never the other way around.
  30. “It’s harmful because it’s immoral” makes no sense.

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