Pedra, Papel e Tesoura

7 de abril de 2018


Filed under: Notícias e política — Tags:, , — Yure @ 22:06

This week, I got in a little argument on Holocaust21 with a guy named Eron. His rage was justified: I made definition mistakes (for example, I treated men’s rights movement and male sexualism as the same thing) and overall acted like an idiot, I admit. But one thing that made me a little disturbed about Eron’s position was his distrust on democracy. He believes that the correct course of action would be the imposition of our dictatorship and he said that sending my text on statutory rape to congress was a waste of time. At first, I didn’t think his views on the subject were sane, but the course that things took in Brazil made me think otherwise.

Lula had the approval of almost half of my country. He lead several pools, even we weren’t certain about his fate, as he was being prosecuted in five different charges, which could render him unable to participate in elections, which effectively happened. The proofs, or rather, what was show as proof of his crimes didn’t convince me, but a lot of other politicians who commited crimes that were recorded with image and perfect audio didn’t suffer fair consequences, as if they were untouchable. Our current president is the biggest criminal in our territory. So, we can’t really talk about democracy in Brazil, at least not at the moment. What we have is a dictatorship, formed by media, executive power and judiciary power. By the way, those are three forces that often conflict with each other. If a minority can walk on the face of half of the fifth largest country on Earth, then democracy doesn’t exist. Indeed, why did I waste my time sending that text again? A popular dictatorship indeed sounds appealing. But how will we install a dictatorship without weapons? Someone wrote that state must give up on it’s weapons before ordering it’s people to drop theirs. That’s the reason why. If we had material means to rebel, Brasil wouldn’t be the anarchy that it currently is.

That also shows that there are no real laws in Brazil. There’s the law of the strongest, who is often the richest. What is the point of saying that “you must remain law-abiding” when I discuss attraction to minors? What’s the point of saying that you shouldn’t kill, steal or sell illicit drugs? Our politicians are extremely successful criminals! And, if you are law-abiding, that doesn’t keep you from going to jail for a insufficiently proved accusation. I’m not saying that I’m going to break the laws, nor that you should break the laws, but lets face it: in the current scenario, does it even matter anymore if you are law-abiding or not? It’s so obvious, that I’m embarrassed for only giving the issue a sincere reflection after the catastrophe. Eron’s position isn’t lunacy: the current dictatorship that we live, in here, is very effective for those who are in power. But it could be us in there. Imagine that. It doesn’t need to be the army, it doesn’t need to be a military dictatorship, but imagine if it was our dictatorship.

However, I don’t think it’s viable. Like I said, a revolution would be needed and a revolution for tomorrow can not be done without weapons and Brazilian citizens aren’t allowed to have those. The best we can do is to continue talking about it, bringing people to our side, even if it means using the same dirty tricks used against us: doctrination, propaganda, rethorics, publicity. It’s a cynical suggestion. That’s because we are still a capitalistic nation. Unpopular opinions aren’t profitable. Our point of view must be profitable, so that it can be sponsored. That would be a good start. I hope that those who supported the impeachment of Dilma are happy now. Do they regret? I hope they see where their quest for unlimited justice has taken them. I do think that their quest was subject to sabotage.

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  1. To create a dictatorship I think you need at least some sort of strong movement to exist. You need many thousands of people who are strongly aggrieved and angry at the existing regime to even attempt such a thing. And some of those would probably need to be insiders on the system, ideally if you can get sections of the judiciary, the media and/or the military on your side then that is best. I think the mindset of the police means that you will basically never get them to side with you, only once you have overthrown the existing power structures will the police become your servants.

    In any case, we are far from that point right now. During the communist revolutions in the early 20th century they were heavily influenced by Marxist thought. So the best we can really do I think is to spread Male Sexualist thought, only once it is an idea that inspires hundreds of thousands worldwide can a revolution come about. I can’t speak much for the structure in Brazil but I suspect if Male Sexualist thought was to spread to the point where a revolution could come about then rather than it being a violent revolution it’s quite likely that democracy and separation of powers would do its work and the existing system would crumble. You’d get jurors refusing to convict, judges refusing to convict and/or criticising the system. You’d get politicians scoring political points by standing up for the revolutionary minority etc.

    The problem really is the spread of our ideas, we have a problem both with getting people to find value in our ideas (many either disagree outright or don’t care) and then secondly we have a problem with getting a platform (the media and tech companies try to censor our ideas).

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    Comentário por holocaust21 — 8 de abril de 2018 @ 10:43

    • I have a “normie” friend who is way older than I am. He was here when the military dictaroship happened and he had to flee to Germany. He saw the stuff I wrote on the subject of age of consent and he said something that is reminiscent of what you just told me. He told me that the right thing to do would indeed be writing for jurors, because the current trend in Brazil is “not following the law’s text to an A” and listening to other sources rather than solely the written law. And there are judges in our territory that are against age of consent (it’s fourteen in our territory). I just don’t know where to start. My fellow, Skyler, who has a more profound knowledge on law and has easy access to public records of interest, would probably be able to give me a direction.
      As for the current system and current mood of our population, I think almost everyone, roughtly 96%, is aggravated by the stablishment. The problem is that they are enraged for different reasons, which keeps them from forming a single block. Some want the return of dictatorship, others want to anticipate elections, others just want Lula free and others would be fine by just having Temer killed off, while many act as if elections already started and spend time promoting their candidate of choice. And those groups oppose to each other for varying reasons. Instead of a single large group, we currently have several small groups that fight each other. That’s dividing and conquering at it’s best.

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      Comentário por Yure — 8 de abril de 2018 @ 13:57

      • Well, the biggest problem for a lot of countries like Brazil is American femihag NGOs setting themselves up in your country and turning it into an American-style hell hole. Actually they call them “NGOs” but I don’t think they are ever NGOs at all. They are usually funded by government, though partly also by other fundraisers (usually by offering people cakes and shit in exchange for a bit of money supposedly for a good cause, of course its never for a good cause).

        Basically what I’m saying is America are likely doing some dodgy shit behind the scenes to get Brazil to pass age of consent laws. It is though, also possible that there are some bonafide Brazilian femihags, who, spurred on by American ideals are busily trying to get age of consent laws passed without any direct American femihag involvement.

        As a start it might be worth trying to figure out who those American NGOs are, as that will at least give you some visible foreign enemy that needs to be booted out of your country. I know next to nothing about what is actually going on in Brazil itself but one example of an evil feminist NGO that I believe is present in Brazil (and many many countries) is Save The Children. I bet you they might have even been involved in lobbying for the tougher age of consent laws in Brazil, though I don’t know this.

        If you actually know groups of influential people (like judges) who don’t like age of consent laws then I guess if you wanted to push it you could try to start some secret discussion forum to try to overthrow the age of consent. Though as I say I think the real battle there is fighting against the hugely well funded American NGOs. You’d need to discuss with these judges a plan to boot them out of your country. Maybe find some pretext to get them arrested? Either that or start some anti-American political movement that blames America for everything and uses Save The Children as an example of America meddling with Brazilian culture. Either way, it’s a challenging battle against the forces of evil, of course.


        Comentário por holocaust21 — 8 de abril de 2018 @ 17:13

        • One source, that is not very credible, has pointed that Moro, the judge who played a major role in sending Lula to jail, was motived by connections with United States. Also, it’s not a secret that our age of consent only became absolute due to pressure from our local protestant lobby and the United Nations (pretty much US/UK). Before 2009, when the new rape law passed, the judge would decide if a relationship with a minor could continue or not based on real damage. Now, if the person is under age of 14, damage is presumed, thus it’s always rape. The judges, of course, were displeased, because that means potentially dooming people (“statutory rape” is actually punished worse than regular rape in Brazil, with up to fifteen years of jail time, because the presumed violence happened to a child) who did no harm. Plus, that criminalized relationships involving two minors and no adult. After that, there was an effort to lowering our age of consent to 12, but the law was stopped by, again, the protestant lobby.
          I never, ever, heard about Save The Children or it’s possible equivalent Salvem as Crianças. In fact, we don’t hear much about any NGOs and most we hear about are our own NGOs. Matter-of-factly, I don’t think that many people here know what age of consent even is, let alone that it’s 14. My father, for example, did not and was surprised when I told him that two consenting minors kissing each other is rape even if both are 13. My father lost his virginity at 12 with a same age girl, before age of consent was absolute.
          I believe that anti-American movements already exist, but they are small. I only heard about a serious one once. Separatist movements are more often on the news, tho. But yes, the point they make, the anti-Americans, is that United States meddles with our culture and not only culture, but also economy and privacy. That makes sense, as Lula opposed to it to a larger extent than other presidents did, or so I read.


          Comentário por Yure — 8 de abril de 2018 @ 18:25

          • Interesting, I had assumed that everyone in Brazil would know what the age of consent is by now, and would be in constant deranged fear of “paedophiles” like my shitty hateful country.

            I don’t know much about Lula, but from what you are saying I am already liking him 🙂

            The one trouble I guess with an anti-American movement is the Americans will be VERY interested in stopping it (as shown by the jailing of Lula). It’s depressing that a handful of psychopathic megalomaniac mega rich individuals control the entire world from Washington.

            But I guess one has to keep chipping away at the system, huh? Also US & UK can potentially be made to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries and abandon feminism by causing internal strife. In the UK we have an anti-feminist MP, Philip Davies, unfortunately he has sometimes gone on about asian grooming gangs so I am not fully sure that he is a pro sex offender MP yet. But we can hope 🙂


            Comentário por holocaust21 — 8 de abril de 2018 @ 19:39

            • The “internal strife” point that you made is the reason why I began writing in English, rather than only in Portuguese. I always had the feeling that Brazil can not change unless United States changes first.
              Also, I must reiterate that the source I got the information of the link between Moro and United States isn’t very credible (Brasil247 is like a left-wing Infowars), but I mentioned that because it does sound plausible, as Lula would rather build relations with other third world countries than with United States, beyond what was extremely necessary (as the influence of United States is unavoidable).


              Comentário por Yure — 9 de abril de 2018 @ 14:05

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